204 FXUS66 KSGX 170441 AFDSGXArea Forecast Discussion National Weather Service San Diego CA 941 PM PDT Tue Sep 16 2025
.SYNOPSIS... Remnants of Tropical Storm Mario will bring increasing moisture and clouds to the area for the middle of the week. There are chances of showers and thunderstorms for the mountains and deserts from this afternoon through early next week. For Wednesday through Friday morning there are chances for showers and thunderstorms west of the mountains. The marine layer will become shallower with the potential for minimal or no low cloud coverage for the middle to end of the week.
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.DISCUSSION...FOR EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN CALIFORNIA INCLUDING ORANGE... SAN DIEGO...WESTERN RIVERSIDE AND SOUTHWESTERN SAN BERNARDINO COUNTIES...
Update: The latest update by the Joint Typhoon Warning Center (JTWC) on now post-tropical Mario shows it continuing to drift towards the northwest. The remnants of this system, with the first initial bands will begin to impact the CWA beginning by around 10 AM tomorrow morning. The WRF shows a few storms already beginning to develop by around that time over the mountains, or shortly after, although the HRRR (with a drier bias) does not have convection initiating over the mountains until closer to Noon. The first bands will arrive right off the coast around the same time, and there is only slight deviation between the CAMs reflecting this. It still appears that the better chance of getting measurable precipitation for the lower elevations throughout the afternoon and evening hours tomorrow, with likely a few heavier showers and thunderstorms embedded within the bands of rain that move over. During the afternoon hours, there will also likely be some more thunderstorms developing over the mountains and deserts. It does appear with the post-tropical low ejecting out of the region and up to the north on Thursday, that the flow will allow for any storms that do develop over the mountains and deserts to drift towards the northeast an not be of much concern to the inland areas. That being said, there could still be some areas receiving showers and possibly a thunderstorm, and with PWATs of 200%, it is likely that these heavier showers/thunderstorms will put down a quick amount of rainfall in a short period of time, and this may lead to flash flooding concerns, especially for the burn scars. A chance of thunderstorms will still exist during the afternoon hours on Friday over the mountains and deserts, and this chance will continue going into the weekend, although likely with much less coverage by Sunday. The extended forecast going past this upcoming weekend still looks to be on track, showing a gradual warmup going into early next week as ridging becomes more of the dominant feature again.
(Previous discussion submitted at 144 PM):
Satellite at 1 PM was showing areas of cumulus clouds over the mountains, locally into the valleys. No precipitation has been detected thus far, although convection has developed in the mountains south of the border. The 12Z KNKX sounding was showing 1.25 inches of precipitable water with 700 j/kg of most unstable CAPE. One inhibiting factor is a fairly substantial inversion near 700 mb. This could limit convective development, even with the otherwise favorable conditions. The slight chances of showers and thunderstorms over the mountains has been maintained in the afternoon forecast package.
Chances for showers and thunderstorms become more widespread for Wednesday afternoon through early Friday morning. It looks like there will be enough moisture and instability tomorrow afternoon for thunderstorms to develop over the mountains, locally into the deserts ahead of the main moisture surge. As we move into Wednesday evening and Thursday morning, shower chances become more widespread west of the mountains, with the potential for isolated thunderstorms to develop. Shower coverage overnight may be fairly scattered. For Thursday afternoon, shower and thunderstorm chances continue for the inland valleys, mountains, and deserts. Depending on how strong the easterly flow is, it`s possible thunderstorms could drift closer to the coast. Flash flooding is possible where thunderstorms develop, especially in the mountains and deserts. Otherwise, main impacts will be frequent lightning and the potential for urban flooding where showers/thunderstorms develop west of the mountains. Based on the latest high resolution guidance rainfall rates west of the mountains will generally be 0.25"/hr or less, but could be locally higher where thunderstorms develop; in the mountains rainfall rates look to be around 1"/hr; and 0.50"/hr in the deserts.
High resolution guidance is indicating some lingering isolated heavier showers or thunderstorms overnight Thursday into Friday morning. For Friday, it looks like the best chances of showers and thunderstorms will be over the mountains potentially into the deserts. Chances for afternoon showers and thunderstorms will continue for the mountains, deserts, and potentially inland valleys into early next week.
The increase in moisture and clouds, Wednesday and Thursday will result in high temperatures for inland areas to cool several degrees. High temperatures on Thursday will be as much as 8 to 12 degrees below average for the mountains. High temperatures for inland areas will warm around 10 degrees from Thursday through Sunday with Sunday high temperatures mostly a few to around 5 degrees below average. High temperatures on Sunday will range from the mid 70s near the coast to the upper 80s to mid 90s for the Inland Empire with the mid 90s to around 100 for the lower deserts. There could be another influx of tropical moisture early next week from a second tropical system that is yet to fully develop. More information will be available in the coming days.
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.AVIATION... 170245Z...Coast...Low confidence in low cloud development tonight through Wednesday evening. Very patchy low clouds 09-16Z Wed with bases 300-700 feet MSL. Vis restrictions (1-4 SM) wherever low clouds develop.
Regionwide...BKN-OVC high clouds around 10000 feet MSL through Wednesday. SCT -SHRA and ISO TSRA begin to move in from the south after 18Z Wed with cloud bases AOA 10K ft MSL. ISO TSRA continue into Thursday with increasing storm chances for the mountains and deserts.
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.MARINE...There is a slight chance of thunderstorms Wednesday through Friday, with the greatest chance Wednesday evening and overnight. Any storms could briefly produce lightning, gusty winds and choppy seas. Quieter conditions expected over the weekend.
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.BEACHES...There is a slight chance of thunderstorms Wednesday through Friday, with the greatest chance Wednesday evening and overnight. Storms may be accompanied by cloud to ground lightning and gusty winds.
KW
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.SKYWARN... Skywarn activation is not requested. However weather spotters are encouraged to report significant weather conditions.
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.SGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CA...None. PZ...None.
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UPDATE...Stewey PUBLIC...CO AVIATION/MARINE/BEACHES...KW
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